There is no consensus among Ashkenazi rabbis, and the most widespread Sephardic custom is to recite havdalah first. As for Saturday night, the candles are lit after the sun goes down and Shabbat has ended, but there are differing opinions regarding whether the menorah should be lit before or after the havdalah rituals are completed.

According to Jewish law, the menorah should be lit before the Shabbat candles on Friday evening while it is still light out. Lighting a fire during Shabbat is forbidden according to Jewish law, so there are slight adjustments to Hanukkah candle lighting on both Friday and Saturday nights. Since Hanukkah lasts for eight nights, the holiday will inevitably overlap with Shabbat at least once. Still, if an owner of an individual piece plans to keep it for their own personal enjoyment, they should clean it as they wish.īUT, if they plan to sell it to the collector market, it's ALWAYS best to leave it 'as is'.When is Hanukkah 2022? Get all the details on the holiday here. Ultimately, when it comes to antique and/or vintage items of significance, I still maintain, that unless one is cognizant of any given piece's providence, and its real potential market or historic value, that any such undertakings are best left to qualified individuals.Īdmittedly, the majority of inquires on this forum are in regard to items of much less significance. MANY fine items of significance are ruined every day by well-meaning individuals who attempt restoration but end up applying inappropriate or even harmful methods because they are simply ignorant of what they have in hand. (Which, being) that IF a metal worked piece is deemed to be a valuable original creation of someone such as PAUL REVERE, then the undertaking of any restoration is best left to experts. My reference to museum curators was given as support of my point. I have seen some ancient Asian metalwork in the Smithsonian and even the other museums you cited, which still have much of their natural 'patina' (define this as you will). I'm also a graduate of The Art Institutes. Now we know how many cannon balls it takes to fill Nassau Hall.īut seriously LINDAC92-I respect your POV.Īnd YES! I have 'visited' all those places. Leaving them as is will appeal to a broader range of people in my opinion. Others will appreciate the aged look and so on. One might say they will buy them because they see the potential for what they will look like shined up. What you do or don't do to them will appeal to different people in different ways. Some people like the shape of things like that, others the look from the effects of aging others only because of their age. Let the new owner do with them what they wish. If you prefer to sell them, dust them off and leave them as they are. If you are not interested in selling them and want to enjoy their beauty, clean them up and enjoy them.

I'm not familiar with candle holders but I do know many true antiques are more valuable with the results of aging than if they are cleaned up. It is the equivalent to those metals as rust is to iron. Tarnish is synonymous with natural patina when referring to brass, copper, gold, silver, bronze.

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